[MWForum]Introducing MW @.0

Harvey Bornfield mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Mon, 02 Sep 2002 17:44:12 -0700


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At 11:06 AM 9/2/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>I am not sure I agree with Harvey on this.  I have taught a course at the 
>college level for a couple of years now that uses Logo pretty 
>extensively.  A couple of years ago, I advertised it as charming, fun, 
>robotics, easy etc. and got very low enrolment.  Last time I advertised it 
>as challenging, difficult and mind challenging, but fascinating.  Got more 
>people.  I think people want the truth, and I think they want to feel like 
>what they are doing is worthwhile and difficult.  Maybe Harvey and I are 
>saying the same thing, just in different ways.
>

Thanks for disagreeing, Gary, and for championing full disclosure 
commitment to challenge is the honest, hence Royal Road to learning. My 
attempt to provide Lauren with a cloaking device, a veneer of  "a spoonful 
of enchantment makes the medicine go down", as a good way to welcome the 
troops, didn't, and shouldn't preclude her as portraying coming to MW as 
the embrace a demanding discipline which rides horseback upon some pretty 
revolutionary educational paradigms often seen as adverse to instructionalism.

But in college teaching, the towers have a higher percentage of Ivory than 
the coarse-grained walls of schools. Put another the students come in 
contexts of higher education in large measure one supposes, of their own 
freedom to stretch their envelopes. In the context in which Lauren finds 
herself, I would hope that the sin of understating, almost fraudulently, 
the commitment to the enormous learning curve, to teachers who are, to say 
the least, if I read her correctly, less than enthused, (perhaps almost 
hostile to the mental calesthenics), might become a key to the political 
survival of a newcomer on the block. Walking on tiptoe in earthquake 
country might be grounds for paroling this sin from being sentenced for the 
crime of false advertising.

Mary Poppins over and out!

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At 11:06 AM 9/2/2002 -0600, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I am not sure I agree with Harvey
on this.&nbsp; I have taught a course at the college level for a couple
of years now that uses Logo pretty extensively.&nbsp; A couple of years
ago, I advertised it as charming, fun, robotics, easy etc. and got very
low enrolment.&nbsp; Last time I advertised it as challenging, difficult
and mind challenging, but fascinating.&nbsp; Got more people.&nbsp; I
think people want the truth, and I think they want to feel like what they
are doing is worthwhile and difficult.&nbsp; Maybe Harvey and I are
saying the same thing, just in different ways.<br><br>
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Thanks for disagreeing, Gary, and for championing full disclosure
commitment to challenge is the honest, hence Royal Road to learning. My
attempt to provide Lauren with a cloaking device, a veneer of&nbsp;
&quot;a spoonful of enchantment makes the medicine go down&quot;, as a
good way to welcome the troops, didn't, and shouldn't  preclude her as
portraying coming to MW as the embrace a demanding discipline which rides
horseback upon some pretty revolutionary educational paradigms often seen
as adverse to instructionalism.<br><br>
But in college teaching, the towers have a higher percentage of Ivory
than the coarse-grained walls of schools. Put another the students come
in contexts of higher education in large measure one supposes, of their
own freedom to stretch their envelopes. In the context in which Lauren
finds herself, I would hope that the sin of understating, almost
fraudulently, the commitment to the enormous learning curve, to teachers
who are, to say the least, if I read her correctly, less than enthused,
(perhaps almost hostile to the mental calesthenics), might become a key
to the political survival of a newcomer on the block. Walking on tiptoe
in earthquake country might be grounds for paroling this sin from being
sentenced for the crime of false advertising. <br><br>
Mary Poppins over and out! <br><br>
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