[MWForum]MIA, Ask an Expert Question

Jeff Knope mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:21:52 -0700


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Hi Ann,

There are two basically different ways to tell a turtle where to go.  =
One way uses the "relative" commands: left, right, forward, and back.  =
All of these are "relative" to the turtle's location or heading just =
before the command is given.  The other way uses the "absolute" =
commands: home and setpos.  They send the turtle to a new location not =
at all based on where the turtle is before the command is given.  There =
are two commands that are "half-and-half": setx and sety change the =
turtle's location based partly on where it is, and partly on the =
coordinate value given.

These terms, "relative" and "absolute," are just my personal names for =
this difference.  There may be some other established vocabulary for =
discussing this that I don't know about. =20

Now, about your questions:

1. You may tell a turtle to return to home, which is [0 0] in the center =
of the graphics screen, or to any other setpos [x y] location.  You can =
tell it to linger at its last location with a wait n, or tell it to =
glide n smoothly to its original starting point.

2. Using the commands  discussed above, you may "drive" the turtle from =
anywhere to anywhere, along whatever serpentine or "swimming" course you =
like.

3, Whether a turtle (and its shape) is "in front" of another is one of =
its state properties.  You may select it by right-clicking on the turtle =
and left-clicking "In Front."   There are other ways too.  You can find =
them in the Help program. =20

I encourage you to explore the Help program.  Kinda' like a turtle, the =
Help program has different states, or "ways of being."  Which state is =
best to use changes with the kind of Help you need.  It takes a little =
curiosity and practice to get a handle on it.

I hope I've been helpful,
-Jeff

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  1. How can I make my turtle do what i have program and then return =
back to the place it started its
  movement for the next child to have a turn?


  How do I make a turtle return to the place it started from after It =
has finished the compand I set for it to do?


  2. How can I make a turtle swim up and down the page in water in an =
"s" Shape?


  3. How do I make a turle move behind other turtles or drawn objects =
like tree or water?
  Thank you for you help
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Ann,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are two basically different ways =
to tell a=20
turtle where to go.&nbsp; One way uses the "relative" commands:=20
<STRONG>left</STRONG>, <STRONG>right</STRONG>, <STRONG>forward</STRONG>, =
and=20
<STRONG>back</STRONG>.&nbsp; All of these are "relative" to the turtle's =

location or heading&nbsp;just before the command is given.&nbsp; The =
other way=20
uses the "absolute" commands: <STRONG>home</STRONG>=20
and&nbsp;<STRONG>setpos</STRONG>.&nbsp; They send the turtle to a new =
location=20
not at all based on where the turtle is before the command is =
given.&nbsp; There=20
are two commands that are "half-and-half": <STRONG>setx</STRONG> and=20
<STRONG>sety </STRONG>change the turtle's location based partly on where =
it is,=20
and partly on the coordinate value given.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These terms, "relative" =
and&nbsp;"absolute," are=20
just my personal names&nbsp;for this difference.&nbsp; There may be some =
other=20
established vocabulary&nbsp;for discussing this that I don't know =
about.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now, about your questions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. You may&nbsp;tell a turtle =
to&nbsp;return to=20
<STRONG>home, </STRONG>which is [0 0] in the center of the graphics =
screen, or=20
to any other <STRONG>setpos [x y]</STRONG> location.&nbsp;=20
You&nbsp;can&nbsp;tell it to linger at its last location with a =
<STRONG>wait=20
<EM>n,</EM></STRONG> or&nbsp;tell it to <STRONG>glide <EM>n=20
</EM></STRONG>smoothly to its original starting point.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Using the commands&nbsp; discussed =
above, you=20
may "drive" the turtle<STRONG><EM>&nbsp;</EM></STRONG>from anywhere to =
anywhere,=20
along whatever serpentine or "swimming" course you like.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3, Whether a&nbsp;turtle (and its=20
<STRONG>shape</STRONG>) is "in front" of another is&nbsp;one of=20
its&nbsp;<EM>state </EM>properties.&nbsp; You may select it by =
right-clicking on=20
the turtle and left-clicking "In Front."&nbsp;&nbsp; There are other =
ways=20
too.&nbsp; You can find&nbsp;them in the Help program.&nbsp; =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I encourage you to explore the Help =
program.&nbsp;=20
Kinda' like a turtle,&nbsp;the Help program&nbsp;has different =
<EM>states,=20
</EM>or "ways of being."&nbsp; Which state is best&nbsp;to use changes =
with the=20
kind of Help you need.&nbsp; It takes a little curiosity =
and&nbsp;practice to=20
get a handle on it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope I've been helpful,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-Jeff</FONT></DIV>
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