The following ends with the error message "setpos does not like :x as input in place". I added the line show :t show :x show :y to prove the variables were being passed correctly. I just can not use them in setpos. to start place "sq9 50 -50 end to place :t :x :y show :t show :x show :y newturtle :t setcolor "red setpos [:x :y] end Bob