[MWForum]Hello
Jeff Knope
mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:06:09 -0800
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Oh, Harvey!!! Where have you been? How I've missed your magnificent =
flights of verbal acrobatics!
Nietzsche said, "We hear strange music badly." I suspect something =
similar going on with respect to EX's backpacks. We have long =
experience with having just the procedures tab available. It's at first =
unsettling to have procedures running around in other places. Seems =
downright untidy.
But as a real-world model, it's an improvement. It's like being able to =
give each turtle is own DNA, governing it's behavior. And when one of =
them isn't behaving the way we'd prefer, it's often easier to find where =
the problem lives.
Jeff
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From: earlyfire@earthlink.net=20
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MWForum]Hello
The EX backpacks are so elegant, and are perfect for publishing =
perfected and polished procedures abroad of the classroom and of =
continents! But before one purchases a Stradivarius, and goes to =
Juilliard, one has to earn their way through middle school. Which is a =
roundabout way of saying the overhead required to employ the backpack =
orchestration does indeed detract from the spontaniety, from the =
improvisatorial elasticity of interactive trial-and-error which, after =
all, is the strongest learning opportunity inherent in constructionism. =
In America, where packaging and outer appearance hase become a religion, =
we perceive invariably that far too much effort seems spent on =
engineering a perfect book-cover at the expense of the substance and the =
learning required to refine the thoughts........... =20
Why not defer allowing the use backpacks until a student's work, =
whether individual or collaborative is brought to high degree of =
finalization, and no more (or few more) experimental revisions are =
necessary.=20
The good news though, is that I robustly suspect that before long, as =
many of us who are experienced MW teachers, programmers and =
adventurists, cross the river over into the use of the EX platform, that =
this forum will no doubt construct and host a large and elegant library =
of backpackable routines to share in eleven languages and dozens of =
countries.=20
Stay tune and anticipate such exciting collaborative module authoring. =
It's going to happen!
Harvey=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: "Burke, Bridget -CKJH"=20
Sent: Mar 10, 2005 3:53 PM=20
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
Subject: [MWForum]Hello=20
I teach junior high MW. I am having a bit of discussion with my =
students on when and how to use the backpacks. I would rather they use =
the procedures tab because the backpack are so time consuming when you =
need to debug a program.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh, Harvey!!! Where have you =
been? How=20
I've missed your magnificent flights of verbal =
acrobatics!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nietzsche said, "We hear strange music=20
badly." I suspect something similar going on with respect to EX's=20
backpacks. We have long experience with having just the procedures =
tab=20
available. It's at first unsettling to have procedures running =
around in=20
other places. Seems downright untidy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But as a real-world model, it's an=20
improvement. It's like being able to give each turtle is own DNA,=20
governing it's behavior. And when one of them isn't behaving the =
way we'd=20
prefer, it's often easier to find where the problem =
lives.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dearlyfire@earthlink.net=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 10, 2005 =
5:05=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[MWForum]Hello</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The EX backpacks are so elegant, and are perfect for publishing =
perfected=20
and polished procedures abroad of the classroom and of =
continents! But=20
before one purchases a Stradivarius, and goes to Juilliard, one =
has to=20
earn their way through middle school. Which is a roundabout =
way of=20
saying the overhead required to employ the backpack orchestration does =
indeed detract from the spontaniety, from the improvisatorial=20
elasticity of interactive trial-and-error which, after =
all, is the=20
strongest learning opportunity inherent in constructionism. In =
America, where=20
packaging and outer appearance hase become a religion, we =
perceive=20
invariably that far too much effort seems spent on=20
engineering a perfect book-cover at the expense of the=20
substance and the learning required to refine the=20
thoughts........... </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Why not defer allowing the use backpacks until a =
student's=20
work, whether individual or collaborative is brought to high =
degree of=20
finalization, and no more (or few more) experimental =
revisions are=20
necessary. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The good news though, is that I robustly suspect that before =
long, as=20
many of us who are experienced MW teachers, programmers and =
adventurists,=20
cross the river over into the use of the EX platform, that this =
forum=20
will no doubt construct and host a large and elegant library of=20
backpackable routines to share in eleven languages and =
dozens of=20
countries. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Stay tune and anticipate such exciting collaborative module=20
authoring. It's going to happen!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Harvey </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: "Burke, Bridget =
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how to=20
use the backpacks. I would rather they use the procedures tab because =
the=20
backpack are so time consuming when you need to debug a=20
program.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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