[MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!

Jeff Knope mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:05:42 -0700


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Hi Jeanne,

Thanks for the feedback.  I'm curious why you'd want to demo only seth, =
and not the companion turning commands, lt and rt?  Or the associated =
moving commands, fd and bk?  Do you mean you'd like a separate page for =
each of those?  That might be a really good idea, especially for very =
young students.  It would be pretty easy to make it like that.

Did you notice the program is organized to help distinguish those =
turning and moving commands from the coordinate commands, setx, sety and =
setpos?  These are two different "mindsets" for moving around on a =
graphics field: the former an "on-the-floor" turtle's-eye, horizontal =
view of the action; the latter an "on-the-ceiling" or vertical =
point-of-view.  You may also notice, the program demonstrates how these =
two approaches can be freely mixed in the same drawing.  It seems to me =
those are all important insights for students at some level.

Since you didn't mention anything about the setheading textbox =
misbehaving, may I assume it is working properly for you?  Wendy =
suggested I send this to the forum expressly to find out if others =
experience the same problem she is having with it.  I'm surprised no one =
has offered us any information about that.

--Jeff


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jean Stringer=20
  To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!


  I se that I had to unfreeze things to remove them. I have just the =
program I want now.  Have No idea how it works but it does what I want =
it to. :)
     Thanks!
       Jean


  Jean Stringer <sjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com> wrote:
      I am not sure about this project, I will have to study it a bit =
more.   I have MWXP on this machine.  I opened it and I would really =
like to have JUST the grid the compas the little red turtle and =
setheading box.  I know it the seth shows at the bottom of the screen, =
but I think this would be a really neat program to demo seth.  I can't =
figure out how to remove everything else and just have what I want as =
the project.=20

      Thanks for any help.

                     Jean



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jeanne,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the feedback.&nbsp; I'm =
curious why=20
you'd want to demo only <STRONG>seth</STRONG>, and not the companion =
turning=20
commands, <STRONG>lt </STRONG>and <STRONG>rt</STRONG>?&nbsp; Or the =
associated=20
moving commands, <STRONG>fd</STRONG> and <STRONG>bk</STRONG>?&nbsp; Do =
you mean=20
you'd like a separate page for each of those?&nbsp; That might be a =
really good=20
idea, especially for very young students.&nbsp; It would be pretty easy =
to make=20
it like that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Did you notice&nbsp;the program =
is&nbsp;organized=20
to help&nbsp;distinguish those <EM>turning and moving</EM> commands from =
the=20
<EM>coordinate commands</EM>, <STRONG>setx</STRONG>, =
<STRONG>sety</STRONG> and=20
<STRONG>setpos</STRONG>?&nbsp; These are two different "mindsets" for =
moving=20
around on a graphics field<STRONG>: </STRONG>the former an =
"on-the-floor"=20
turtle's-eye, horizontal view of the action<STRONG>;</STRONG> the latter =
an=20
"on-the-ceiling" or&nbsp;vertical point-of-view.&nbsp; You may also=20
notice,&nbsp;the program demonstrates how these two approaches can be =
freely=20
mixed in the same drawing.&nbsp; It seems to me those are all important =
insights=20
for students at&nbsp;some level.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since you didn't mention anything about =
the=20
setheading textbox misbehaving, may I assume it is working properly for=20
you?&nbsp; Wendy suggested I send this to the forum expressly to find =
out if=20
others experience&nbsp;the same&nbsp;problem she is having with =
it.&nbsp; I'm=20
surprised no one has offered us any information about that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--Jeff</FONT></DIV>
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  OPPPS!</DIV>
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  <DIV>I se that I had to unfreeze things to remove them. I have just =
the=20
  program I want now.&nbsp; Have No idea how it works but it does what I =
want it=20
  to. :)</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jean</DIV>
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      <DIV>I am not sure about this project, I will have to study it a =
bit=20
      more.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have MWXP on this machine.&nbsp; I opened it =
and I=20
      would really like to have JUST the grid the compas the little red =
turtle=20
      and setheading box.&nbsp; I know it the seth shows at the bottom =
of the=20
      screen, but I think this would be a really neat program to demo=20
      seth.&nbsp; I can't figure out how to remove everything else and =
just have=20
      what I want as the project. </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Thanks for any help.</DIV>
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