[MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!
Jeff Knope
mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:58:07 -0700
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Hi Jean,
Sorry for mispelling your name before.
Well, sure. Throughout the code are references to the items you've =
deleted. So now, when it can't find those items, it complains. =20
I think it would be more helpful for us to discuss those larger issues =
of what you'd prefer the whole thing to be like. Surely you don't want =
a program to demo just SETH, and nothing else. Or do you? =20
Maybe the idea of a separate page for each of the commands might help =
focus attention on one thing at a time. Then, maybe a page that has =
just the Turning and Moving commands as a group; and one for the Drawing =
with Coordinates as a group; and finally, all of them together, like it =
is now.
I think for a group of Logo teachers, you're all being surprisingly mute =
about this. Doesn't anybody else find this interesting?
For those of you who may have missed what we're discussing, there is a =
Project called "GraphicsBasics6" attached to the 4/6 forum posting with =
that subject line. Please note in the text of that posting there is =
also a request for information about one specific aspect of your =
experience with this Project.
Thanks,
Jeff
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From: Jean Stringer=20
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!
Hi,
I thought it was working but now I get this:
tto does not like [SETPOSlabel] as input in STOPMOUSEDRAW
I thought it ws working boo hoo
Jeff Knope <jknope@asis.com> wrote:
Hi Jeanne,
Thanks for the feedback. I'm curious why you'd want to demo only =
seth, and not the companion turning commands, lt and rt? Or the =
associated moving commands, fd and bk? Do you mean you'd like a =
separate page for each of those? That might be a really good idea, =
especially for very young students. It would be pretty easy to make it =
like that.
Did you notice the program is organized to help distinguish those =
turning and moving commands from the coordinate commands, setx, sety and =
setpos? These are two different "mindsets" for moving around on a =
graphics field: the former an "on-the-floor" turtle's-eye, horizontal =
view of the action; the latter an "on-the-ceiling" or vertical =
point-of-view. You may also notice, the program demonstrates how these =
two approaches can be freely mixed in the same drawing. It seems to me =
those are all important insights for students at some level.
Since you didn't mention anything about the setheading textbox =
misbehaving, may I assume it is working properly for you? Wendy =
suggested I send this to the forum expressly to find out if others =
experience the same problem she is having with it. I'm surprised no one =
has offered us any information about that.
--Jeff
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jean Stringer=20
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!
I se that I had to unfreeze things to remove them. I have just the =
program I want now. Have No idea how it works but it does what I want =
it to. :)
Thanks!
Jean
Jean Stringer <sjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am not sure about this project, I will have to study it a =
bit more. I have MWXP on this machine. I opened it and I would really =
like to have JUST the grid the compas the little red turtle and =
setheading box. I know it the seth shows at the bottom of the screen, =
but I think this would be a really neat program to demo seth. I can't =
figure out how to remove everything else and just have what I want as =
the project.=20
Thanks for any help.
Jean
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jean,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry for mispelling your name =
before.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, sure. Throughout the code =
are=20
references to the items you've deleted. So now, when it can't find =
those=20
items, it complains. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it would be more helpful for us =
to discuss=20
those larger issues of what you'd prefer the whole thing to be =
like. =20
Surely you don't want a program to demo just SETH, and nothing =
else. =20
Or do you? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe the idea of a separate =
page for=20
each of the commands might help focus attention on one thing at a=20
time. Then, maybe a page that has just the <EM>Turning and =
Moving</EM>=20
commands as a group; and one for the <EM>Drawing with Coordinates</EM> =
as a=20
group; and finally, all of them together, like it is now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think for a group of Logo =
teachers,=20
you're all being surprisingly mute about this. Doesn't anybody =
else find=20
this interesting?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For those of you who may have =
missed what=20
we're discussing, there is a Project called "GraphicsBasics6" attached =
to the=20
4/6 forum posting with that subject line. Please note in the text =
of that=20
posting there is also a request for information about one =
specific aspect=20
of your experience with this Project.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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[MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 ///=20
OPPPS!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I thought it was working but now I get this:</DIV><FONT size=3D2>
<P>tto does not like [SETPOSlabel] as input in STOPMOUSEDRAW</P>
<DIV></FONT>I thought it ws working boo hoo</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Jeff Knope <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jknope@asis.com">jknope@asis.com</A>></I></B> =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jeanne,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the feedback. I'm =
curious why=20
you'd want to demo only <STRONG>seth</STRONG>, and not the companion =
turning=20
commands, <STRONG>lt </STRONG>and <STRONG>rt</STRONG>? Or the=20
associated moving commands, <STRONG>fd</STRONG> and=20
<STRONG>bk</STRONG>? Do you mean you'd like a separate page =
for each=20
of those? That might be a really good idea, especially for =
very young=20
students. It would be pretty easy to make it like =
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Did you notice the program=20
is organized to help distinguish those <EM>turning and =
moving</EM>=20
commands from the <EM>coordinate commands</EM>, =
<STRONG>setx</STRONG>,=20
<STRONG>sety</STRONG> and <STRONG>setpos</STRONG>? These are =
two=20
different "mindsets" for moving around on a graphics field<STRONG>:=20
</STRONG>the former an "on-the-floor" turtle's-eye, horizontal view =
of the=20
action<STRONG>;</STRONG> the latter an "on-the-ceiling" =
or vertical=20
point-of-view. You may also notice, the program =
demonstrates how=20
these two approaches can be freely mixed in the same drawing. =
It seems=20
to me those are all important insights for students at some=20
level.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since you didn't mention anything =
about the=20
setheading textbox misbehaving, may I assume it is working properly =
for=20
you? Wendy suggested I send this to the forum expressly to =
find out if=20
others experience the same problem she is having with =
it. =20
I'm surprised no one has offered us any information about =
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--Jeff</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dsjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com =
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Stringer</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[MWForum]GraphicsBasics6=20
/// OPPPS!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I se that I had to unfreeze things to remove them. I have =
just the=20
program I want now. Have No idea how it works but it does =
what I=20
want it to. :)</DIV>
<DIV> Thanks!</DIV>
<DIV> Jean</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Jean Stringer <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:sjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com">sjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com</A>></I>=
</B>=20
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<DIV>I am not sure about this project, I will have to study it =
a bit=20
more. I have MWXP on this machine. I opened =
it and I=20
would really like to have JUST the grid the compas the little =
red=20
turtle and setheading box. I know it the seth shows at =
the=20
bottom of the screen, but I think this would be a really neat =
program=20
to demo seth. I can't figure out how to remove =
everything else=20
and just have what I want as the project. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for any help.</DIV>
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Jean</DIV>
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