[MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!
Burke, Bridget -CKJH
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I was on Spring Break. Mute? I can't stop talking about this program. I
keep saying, "How do they do that?" and "Wow!"
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I am really interested in learning more about programming MW. I feel
like I need to take a class. Are there any class out there? Is anyone
interested in teaching one online?
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From: mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com
[mailto:mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Knope
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:58 AM
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!
Hi Jean,
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Sorry for mispelling your name before.
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Well, sure. Throughout the code are references to the items you've
deleted. So now, when it can't find those items, it complains. =20
=20
I think it would be more helpful for us to discuss those larger issues
of what you'd prefer the whole thing to be like. Surely you don't want
a program to demo just SETH, and nothing else. Or do you? =20
=20
Maybe the idea of a separate page for each of the commands might help
focus attention on one thing at a time. Then, maybe a page that has
just the Turning and Moving commands as a group; and one for the Drawing
with Coordinates as a group; and finally, all of them together, like it
is now.
=20
I think for a group of Logo teachers, you're all being surprisingly mute
about this. Doesn't anybody else find this interesting?
=20
For those of you who may have missed what we're discussing, there is a
Project called "GraphicsBasics6" attached to the 4/6 forum posting with
that subject line. Please note in the text of that posting there is
also a request for information about one specific aspect of your
experience with this Project.
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Thanks,
Jeff
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jean Stringer <mailto:sjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com> =20
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!
Hi,
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I thought it was working but now I get this:
tto does not like [SETPOSlabel] as input in STOPMOUSEDRAW
I thought it ws working boo hoo
Jeff Knope <jknope@asis.com> wrote:
Hi Jeanne,
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm curious why you'd want to
demo only seth, and not the companion turning commands, lt and rt? Or
the associated moving commands, fd and bk? Do you mean you'd like a
separate page for each of those? That might be a really good idea,
especially for very young students. It would be pretty easy to make it
like that.
=20
Did you notice the program is organized to help
distinguish those turning and moving commands from the coordinate
commands, setx, sety and setpos? These are two different "mindsets" for
moving around on a graphics field: the former an "on-the-floor"
turtle's-eye, horizontal view of the action; the latter an
"on-the-ceiling" or vertical point-of-view. You may also notice, the
program demonstrates how these two approaches can be freely mixed in the
same drawing. It seems to me those are all important insights for
students at some level.
=20
Since you didn't mention anything about the setheading
textbox misbehaving, may I assume it is working properly for you? Wendy
suggested I send this to the forum expressly to find out if others
experience the same problem she is having with it. I'm surprised no one
has offered us any information about that.
=20
--Jeff
=20
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jean Stringer
<mailto:sjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com> =20
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 /// OPPPS!
I se that I had to unfreeze things to remove
them. I have just the program I want now. Have No idea how it works but
it does what I want it to. :)
Thanks!
Jean
Jean Stringer <sjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am not sure about this project, I will
have to study it a bit more. I have MWXP on this machine. I opened it
and I would really like to have JUST the grid the compas the little red
turtle and setheading box. I know it the seth shows at the bottom of
the screen, but I think this would be a really neat program to demo
seth. I can't figure out how to remove everything else and just have
what I want as the project.=20
=20
Thanks for any help.
=20
Jean
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I was on Spring Break. Mute? I can't stop =
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this program. I keep saying, "How do they do that?" and=20
"Wow!"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D627010321-11042005><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I am really interested in learning more about =
programming=20
MW. I feel like I need to take a class. Are there any class out there? =
Is anyone=20
interested in teaching one online?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D627010321-11042005><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> =
mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com=20
[mailto:mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeff=20
Knope<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:58 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
mwforum@lists.mathcats.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 ///=20
OPPPS!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jean,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry for mispelling your name =
before.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, sure. Throughout the code =
are=20
references to the items you've deleted. So now, when it can't find =
those=20
items, it complains. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it would be more helpful for us =
to discuss=20
those larger issues of what you'd prefer the whole thing to be =
like. =20
Surely you don't want a program to demo just SETH, and nothing =
else. =20
Or do you? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe the idea of a separate =
page for=20
each of the commands might help focus attention on one thing at a=20
time. Then, maybe a page that has just the <EM>Turning and =
Moving</EM>=20
commands as a group; and one for the <EM>Drawing with Coordinates</EM> =
as a=20
group; and finally, all of them together, like it is now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think for a group of Logo =
teachers,=20
you're all being surprisingly mute about this. Doesn't anybody =
else find=20
this interesting?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For those of you who may have =
missed what=20
we're discussing, there is a Project called "GraphicsBasics6" attached =
to the=20
4/6 forum posting with that subject line. Please note in the text =
of that=20
posting there is also a request for information about one =
specific aspect=20
of your experience with this Project.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:sjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com">Jean=20
Stringer</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mwforum@lists.mathcats.com">mwforum@lists.mathcats.com</A>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 07, 2005 =
11:16=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[MWForum]GraphicsBasics6 ///=20
OPPPS!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I thought it was working but now I get this:</DIV><FONT size=3D2>
<P>tto does not like [SETPOSlabel] as input in STOPMOUSEDRAW</P>
<DIV></FONT>I thought it ws working boo hoo</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Jeff Knope <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jknope@asis.com">jknope@asis.com</A>></I></B> =
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jeanne,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the feedback. I'm =
curious why=20
you'd want to demo only <STRONG>seth</STRONG>, and not the companion =
turning=20
commands, <STRONG>lt </STRONG>and <STRONG>rt</STRONG>? Or the=20
associated moving commands, <STRONG>fd</STRONG> and=20
<STRONG>bk</STRONG>? Do you mean you'd like a separate page =
for each=20
of those? That might be a really good idea, especially for =
very young=20
students. It would be pretty easy to make it like =
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Did you notice the program=20
is organized to help distinguish those <EM>turning and =
moving</EM>=20
commands from the <EM>coordinate commands</EM>, =
<STRONG>setx</STRONG>,=20
<STRONG>sety</STRONG> and <STRONG>setpos</STRONG>? These are =
two=20
different "mindsets" for moving around on a graphics field<STRONG>:=20
</STRONG>the former an "on-the-floor" turtle's-eye, horizontal view =
of the=20
action<STRONG>;</STRONG> the latter an "on-the-ceiling" =
or vertical=20
point-of-view. You may also notice, the program =
demonstrates how=20
these two approaches can be freely mixed in the same drawing. =
It seems=20
to me those are all important insights for students at some=20
level.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since you didn't mention anything =
about the=20
setheading textbox misbehaving, may I assume it is working properly =
for=20
you? Wendy suggested I send this to the forum expressly to =
find out if=20
others experience the same problem she is having with =
it. =20
I'm surprised no one has offered us any information about =
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--Jeff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=3Dsjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com =
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Stringer</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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=
href=3D"mailto:mwforum@lists.mathcats.com">mwforum@lists.mathcats.com</A>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 07, =
2005 8:59=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[MWForum]GraphicsBasics6=20
/// OPPPS!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I se that I had to unfreeze things to remove them. I have =
just the=20
program I want now. Have No idea how it works but it does =
what I=20
want it to. :)</DIV>
<DIV> Thanks!</DIV>
<DIV> Jean</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Jean Stringer <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:sjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com">sjbjeanmarie@yahoo.com</A>></I>=
</B>=20
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<DIV>I am not sure about this project, I will have to study it =
a bit=20
more. I have MWXP on this machine. I opened =
it and I=20
would really like to have JUST the grid the compas the little =
red=20
turtle and setheading box. I know it the seth shows at =
the=20
bottom of the screen, but I think this would be a really neat =
program=20
to demo seth. I can't figure out how to remove =
everything else=20
and just have what I want as the project. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for any help.</DIV>
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Jean</DIV>
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