[MWForum]Hello
Burke, Bridget -CKJH
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I have created a MW curriculum that takes into account the interests and
abilities of junior high students. Now that I am part of this forum I am
hoping to find out how others structure their curriculum. Specifically,
what do you teach first, second... etc. I am not trained in programming
and my self taught outline might miss some key programming concepts.
I am in need of a programming scaffold.=20
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From: mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com
[mailto:mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Knope
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:06 PM
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Subject: Re: [MWForum]Hello
Oh, Harvey!!! Where have you been? How I've missed your magnificent
flights of verbal acrobatics!
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Nietzsche said, "We hear strange music badly." I suspect something
similar going on with respect to EX's backpacks. We have long
experience with having just the procedures tab available. It's at first
unsettling to have procedures running around in other places. Seems
downright untidy.
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But as a real-world model, it's an improvement. It's like being able to
give each turtle is own DNA, governing it's behavior. And when one of
them isn't behaving the way we'd prefer, it's often easier to find where
the problem lives.
=20
Jeff
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From: earlyfire@earthlink.net=20
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MWForum]Hello
The EX backpacks are so elegant, and are perfect for publishing
perfected and polished procedures abroad of the classroom and of
continents! But before one purchases a Stradivarius, and goes to
Juilliard, one has to earn their way through middle school. Which is a
roundabout way of saying the overhead required to employ the backpack
orchestration does indeed detract from the spontaniety, from the
improvisatorial elasticity of interactive trial-and-error which, after
all, is the strongest learning opportunity inherent in constructionism.
In America, where packaging and outer appearance hase become a religion,
we perceive invariably that far too much effort seems spent on
engineering a perfect book-cover at the expense of the substance and the
learning required to refine the thoughts........... =20
=20
Why not defer allowing the use backpacks until a student's work,
whether individual or collaborative is brought to high degree of
finalization, and no more (or few more) experimental revisions are
necessary.=20
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The good news though, is that I robustly suspect that before
long, as many of us who are experienced MW teachers, programmers and
adventurists, cross the river over into the use of the EX platform, that
this forum will no doubt construct and host a large and elegant library
of backpackable routines to share in eleven languages and dozens of
countries.=20
=20
Stay tune and anticipate such exciting collaborative module
authoring. It's going to happen!
=20
Harvey=20
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-----Original Message-----=20
From: "Burke, Bridget -CKJH"=20
Sent: Mar 10, 2005 3:53 PM=20
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
Subject: [MWForum]Hello=20
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I teach junior high MW. I am having a bit of discussion with my
students on when and how to use the backpacks. I would rather they use
the procedures tab because the backpack are so time consuming when you
need to debug a program.
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I have created a MW curriculum that takes into =
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interests and abilities of junior high students. Now that I am part of =
this=20
forum I am hoping to find out how others structure their curriculum.=20
Specifically, what do you teach first, second... etc. I am not trained =
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programming and my self taught outline might miss some key programming=20
concepts.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D673322920-18032005><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I am in need of a programming scaffold.=20
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[mailto:mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeff=20
Knope<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
mwforum@lists.mathcats.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
[MWForum]Hello<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh, Harvey!!! Where have you =
been? How=20
I've missed your magnificent flights of verbal =
acrobatics!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nietzsche said, "We hear strange music=20
badly." I suspect something similar going on with respect to EX's=20
backpacks. We have long experience with having just the procedures =
tab=20
available. It's at first unsettling to have procedures running =
around in=20
other places. Seems downright untidy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But as a real-world model, it's an=20
improvement. It's like being able to give each turtle is own DNA,=20
governing it's behavior. And when one of them isn't behaving the =
way we'd=20
prefer, it's often easier to find where the problem =
lives.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dearlyfire@earthlink.net=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 10, 2005 =
5:05=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[MWForum]Hello</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The EX backpacks are so elegant, and are perfect for publishing =
perfected=20
and polished procedures abroad of the classroom and of =
continents! But=20
before one purchases a Stradivarius, and goes to Juilliard, one =
has to=20
earn their way through middle school. Which is a roundabout =
way of=20
saying the overhead required to employ the backpack orchestration does =
indeed detract from the spontaniety, from the improvisatorial=20
elasticity of interactive trial-and-error which, after =
all, is the=20
strongest learning opportunity inherent in constructionism. In =
America, where=20
packaging and outer appearance hase become a religion, we =
perceive=20
invariably that far too much effort seems spent on=20
engineering a perfect book-cover at the expense of the=20
substance and the learning required to refine the=20
thoughts........... </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Why not defer allowing the use backpacks until a =
student's=20
work, whether individual or collaborative is brought to high =
degree of=20
finalization, and no more (or few more) experimental =
revisions are=20
necessary. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The good news though, is that I robustly suspect that before =
long, as=20
many of us who are experienced MW teachers, programmers and =
adventurists,=20
cross the river over into the use of the EX platform, that this =
forum=20
will no doubt construct and host a large and elegant library of=20
backpackable routines to share in eleven languages and =
dozens of=20
countries. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Stay tune and anticipate such exciting collaborative module=20
authoring. It's going to happen!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Harvey </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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-CKJH"=20
<BRIDGETBU@CKSD.WEDNET.EDU><BR>Sent: Mar 10, 2005 3:53 PM <BR>To:=20
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use the backpacks. I would rather they use the procedures tab because =
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