[MWForum]Hello
Chris Myers
mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:19:00 -0700
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Bridget,
You may want to check out OWL's MicroWorlds in Action Web Site as a
resource - it has teaching projects arranged in order of difficulty and
grouped according to theme.
-Chris
Christopher Myers
Founder and Executive Director
OpenWorld Learning / OWL
www.openworldlearning.org
-----Original Message-----
From: mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com
[mailto:mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com] On Behalf Of Burke, Bridget
-CKJH
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:37 PM
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Subject: RE: [MWForum]Hello
I have created a MW curriculum that takes into account the interests and
abilities of junior high students. Now that I am part of this forum I am
hoping to find out how others structure their curriculum. Specifically,
what do you teach first, second... etc. I am not trained in programming
and my self taught outline might miss some key programming concepts.
I am in need of a programming scaffold.
_____
From: mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com
[mailto:mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Knope
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:06 PM
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Subject: Re: [MWForum]Hello
Oh, Harvey!!! Where have you been? How I've missed your magnificent
flights of verbal acrobatics!
Nietzsche said, "We hear strange music badly." I suspect something
similar going on with respect to EX's backpacks. We have long
experience with having just the procedures tab available. It's at first
unsettling to have procedures running around in other places. Seems
downright untidy.
But as a real-world model, it's an improvement. It's like being able to
give each turtle is own DNA, governing it's behavior. And when one of
them isn't behaving the way we'd prefer, it's often easier to find where
the problem lives.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: earlyfire@earthlink.net
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MWForum]Hello
The EX backpacks are so elegant, and are perfect for publishing
perfected and polished procedures abroad of the classroom and of
continents! But before one purchases a Stradivarius, and goes to
Juilliard, one has to earn their way through middle school. Which is a
roundabout way of saying the overhead required to employ the backpack
orchestration does indeed detract from the spontaniety, from the
improvisatorial elasticity of interactive trial-and-error which, after
all, is the strongest learning opportunity inherent in constructionism.
In America, where packaging and outer appearance hase become a religion,
we perceive invariably that far too much effort seems spent on
engineering a perfect book-cover at the expense of the substance and the
learning required to refine the thoughts...........
Why not defer allowing the use backpacks until a student's work, whether
individual or collaborative is brought to high degree of finalization,
and no more (or few more) experimental revisions are necessary.
The good news though, is that I robustly suspect that before long, as
many of us who are experienced MW teachers, programmers and
adventurists, cross the river over into the use of the EX platform, that
this forum will no doubt construct and host a large and elegant library
of backpackable routines to share in eleven languages and dozens of
countries.
Stay tune and anticipate such exciting collaborative module authoring.
It's going to happen!
Harvey
-----Original Message-----
From: "Burke, Bridget -CKJH"
Sent: Mar 10, 2005 3:53 PM
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Subject: [MWForum]Hello
I teach junior high MW. I am having a bit of discussion with my students
on when and how to use the backpacks. I would rather they use the
procedures tab because the backpack are so time consuming when you need
to debug a program.
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You may want to check out =
OWL’s
MicroWorlds in Action Web Site as a resource – it has teaching =
projects
arranged in order of difficulty and grouped according to =
theme.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Founder and Executive Director<br>
OpenWorld Learning / OWL<br>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com =
[mailto:mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Burke, Bridget =
-CKJH<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 18, =
2005 1:37
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
mwforum@lists.mathcats.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: =
[MWForum<span
class=3DGramE>]Hello</span></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I have created a MW curriculum that =
takes
into account the interests and abilities of junior high students. Now =
that I am
part of this forum I am hoping to find out how others structure their
curriculum. Specifically, what do you teach first, second... etc. I am =
not
trained in programming and my self taught outline might miss some key
programming concepts.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I am in need of a programming =
scaffold. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com =
[mailto:mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jeff Knope<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 10, =
2005
6:06 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
mwforum@lists.mathcats.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[MWForum]Hello</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Oh, Harvey!!! Where have you been? How =
I've
missed your magnificent flights of verbal =
acrobatics!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Nietzsche said, "We hear strange music
badly." I suspect something similar going on with respect to =
EX's
backpacks. We have long experience with having just the procedures =
tab
available. It's at first unsettling to have procedures running =
around in
other places. Seems downright untidy.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>But as a real-world model, it's an improvement. =
It's
like being able to give each turtle is own DNA, governing it's =
behavior.
And when one of them isn't behaving the way we'd prefer, it's =
often easier
to find where the problem lives.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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></font></b><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:earlyfire@earthlink.net" =
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=3D2
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:mwforum@lists.mathcats.com" =
title=3D"mwforum@lists.mathcats.com">mwforum@lists.mathcats.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> =
Thursday, March
10, 2005 5:05 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: =
[MWForum]Hello<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>The EX backpacks are so elegant, and are perfect for publishing
perfected and polished procedures abroad of the classroom and of
continents! But before one purchases a Stradivarius, and goes to
Juilliard, one has to earn their way through middle =
school.
Which is a roundabout way of saying the overhead required to employ the
backpack orchestration does indeed detract from the spontaniety, =
from the
improvisatorial elasticity of interactive trial-and-error which, =
after
all, is the strongest learning opportunity inherent in =
constructionism. In
America, where packaging and outer appearance hase become a =
religion, we
perceive invariably that far too much effort seems spent on
engineering a perfect book-cover at the expense of the =
substance
and the learning required to refine the =
thoughts........... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Why not defer allowing the use backpacks until a =
student's
work, whether individual or collaborative is brought to high degree =
of
finalization, and no more (or few more) experimental revisions =
are
necessary. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>The good news though, is that I robustly suspect that before =
long, as
many of us who are experienced MW teachers, programmers and =
adventurists, cross
the river over into the use of the EX platform, that this forum =
will no
doubt construct and host a large and elegant library of =
backpackable
routines to share in eleven languages and dozens of countries. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Stay tune and anticipate such exciting collaborative module
authoring. It's going to happen!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Harvey <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<br>
-----Original Message----- <br>
From: "Burke, Bridget -CKJH" <br>
<BRIDGETBU@CKSD.WEDNET.EDU>Sent: Mar 10, 2005 3:53 PM <br>
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com <br>
Subject: [MWForum]Hello <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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teach junior high MW. I am having a bit of discussion with my students =
on when
and how to use the backpacks. I would rather they use the procedures tab
because the backpack are so time consuming when you need to debug a =
program.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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